This review is in response to all of the requests that I have gotten regarding Andro-6 and Anotesten. With the flood of promising reviews on androstene and androdiol there was bound to be some companies that would try to capitalize on the consumers with promises of products that would make a good supplement better. I think that all of this misinformation was started by Bill Phillips when he originally started talking about Androstene, "The East German Secret Weapon," or something like that. He touted that taking DHEA, Androstene, and Tribulus Terrestris would cause "steroid like effects." I am going to show you why this is not possible with this article.
First, lets look at what is in the two products:
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Androstenedione
This is really one of the few parts of this mixture of supplements
that is worthwhile. Androstenedione is a testosterone precursor.
This means that it is only one step away in the conversion to testosterone
process making it a worthwhile supplement. Androstenedione is a natural
steroid hormone that can be found in all animals. It is is a metabolite
of DHEA. It is made naturally in the body by the gonads and adrenal glands.
The effects of androstenedione last for only a short period of time but
it causes a sudden burst of testosterone it will boost athletic performance
by increasing muscle strength. This is a proven supplement which
is the greatest addition to this supplement mixture.
DHEA
I think that people are still caught up on this one because it was
classified as a steroid for a period of time. DHEA is an adrenal
hormone that is a testosterone precursor. It is about two steps up
the ladder from testosterone though. DHEA converts to androstenedione
in the body and then converts to testosterone. This makes DHEA basically
an androstenedione precursor. The problem with having DHEA in the
mixture is that it uses the same enzyme to convert to androstenedione as
the androstenedione uses to convert to testosterone. In other words,
the DHEA and androstenedione are competing for an enzyme that is available
in the body in only a limited amount. Why would you want to even
mess with a two step testosterone conversion process with the DHEA?
The end result of adding the DHEA to this stack is that you will have more
5-AD in the blood than testosterone. The end result of all of this
is less of an anabolic effect than would have normally been possible if
they had not included DHEA in this supplement in the first place.
Tribulus Terrestris
Tribulus is a testosterone booster by different means that DHEA or
androstenedione. It is supposed to boost testosterone production
by increasing the amount of luteinizing hormone that they body produces.
LH is what signals the testes to start producing more endogenous testosterone,
the body's natural testosterone. Unfortunately, there is only a single
study that shows that tribulus terrestris increases LH. There have
been several studies that show that it does increase sperm production as
well as motility though.
This supplement is currently in the limbo phase as to whether it is indeed an effective supplement or not. There has only been one study done that showed that it did what is claimed. There are currently other studies going on to try and substantiate these claims though. I personally think that it does work though. I have gotten good results from taking it as a separate supplement as well. If through further testing it is proven to increase LH in the body thereby increasing natural testosterone synthesis in the body then it may even have the benefit of a poor mans HCG or Clomid without the anti-estrogenic effects when coming off of a steroid cycle.
Saw Palmetto
Saw Palmetto is a plant herb that is supposedly beneficial for the
prostate. The active ingredient in saw palmetto is supposed to inhibit
the conversion of testosterone to the androgen DHT. DHT is bad for
a couple of reasons but it may be essential in other regards. It
causes enlargement of the prostate as well as hair loss. These are
both effects that most men would want to live without. The other
reason for the inclusion of saw palmetto is that it is being touted as
an anti-estrogen. I have seen only a single study that showed this
effect and this same study showed that saw palmetto also blocked testosterone
receptor sites as well.
The problem with saw palmetto being in this supplement mixture is that DHT is an active androgen in the central nervous system that is important to you in other aspects. DHT is important to you in terms of strength gains as well as the aggressive effects of testosterone. There are several different studies on the net that show that saw palmetto is an androgen receptor antagonist. You don't want to take something with a testosterone booster that may in fact hinder it from binding with the androgen receptors in the first place. If it can't bind with these receptors you may not see any changes in strength or lean mass gains from the androstenedione at all. Saw Palmetto is a supplement that has its place but not in this mixture. Obviously, if you spent over $50 for testosterone boosting supplement, why would you want to take a chance on something that might render it useless?
Indole-3 Carbinol
Indole-3 carbinol is a dietary indole that cause the body to alter
its metabolism of estradiol. Indole-3 carbinol is a phytonutrient
that is a by product of glucosinolate's in cruciferous vegetables such
as broccoli, cabbage, brussel sprouts, etc. It is a highly reactive
phytochemical. There are two main benefits of taking indole-3 carbinol:
it helps get rid of cancer causing agents and works as an anti-estrogen.
We are going to concentrate on the anti-estrogenic properties of this compound
since that is the sole reason that it is included in these supplements.
Indole-3 carbinol works as an anti-estrogen in an interesting way. This is accomplished by stimulating the C-2 enzyme, which forces estrogen down an inactivation pathway. Once it has gone down this pathway, it is changed into a catechol estrogen which is cleared from your system and may even act as an anti-estrogen it itself. If estrogen production continues to be increased as a by-product of all the excess testosterone that the androstenedione is causing, being C-16 alpha it could possibly stimulate gyno in some people, especially if they are taking higher doses of androstenedione than recommended. Since Indole-3 carbinol makes estrogen go down the C-2 pathway, it makes it rids the body of all of the unwanted side effects. The biggest question with indole-3 carbinol remains whether it will remain potent once it passes through your stomach. More info to follow in the future on this issue.
Chrysin
Chrysin is a naturally occurring flavone that has been shown to inhibit
the conversion of androgens to estrogen's. There are several things
that are going against "Flavone X," as it was originally called by Dan
Duchaine. The first thing is that you have to take a very high dosage
to get any effects from it at all. Andro-6 and Anotesten only contain
150 mg of chrysin. Most of the studies that I have seen were using
several grams (thousands of mg) per day to have any anti-estrogenic effects
in the first place. 150 mg of Chrysin is basically a useless dosage.
The other problem with Chrysin is that it is a very poor bioavailable compound.
It is not absorbed very well by the gastrointestinal tract. When
and even if it makes it through all of this, it would then go to the liver
which would quickly decompose it and leave hardly anything that would work
as an anti-estrogen. These studies that are leaving very little left
as an anti-estrogen are using 4-8 grams per day not 150 mg per day.
I would highly doubt that you would see a single change in estrogen levels
from the amount of chrysin that is contained in these supplements.
Overview
Now taking all of that into consideration, lets look at the price of
these two supplements: EAS Andro-6 gives you 120 tablets whereas
the recommended dosage is two tablets, 2 -3 times per day. This makes
a bottle last 20 days if you take it 3 times per day like most people would.
Andro-6 retails for $79.95 off of the EAS webpage. But, hey, if you
buy 3 bottles you get 1 free. That way you have 4 bottles of a shitty
product instead of just 1. Anotesten on the other hand gives you
two different sized bottles: and 84 capsule bottle and one with 168
capsules in it. The recommended dosage on this one is 6 capsules
per dose. They also say that Anotesten should be used for 14 days
straight, followed by a 7 day layoff and that the cycle should be repeated
3 times with a 3 week layoff. So what you are getting here is either
a bottle with enough for 14 days or 28 days worth of supplements.
The thing that cracks me up the most about MuscleTech's Anotesten is that
they claim that it is time-released. This is total bullshit.
The bottles of Anotestin retail for either $39.95 or $69.95 depending on
how much you want to get ripped off I guess. I would be very leery
about any MuscleTech supplements at this point anyway. There is book
that is on sale right now that tested several different companies supplements,
including both EAS and MuscleTech as well as about 100 other. The
MuscleTech supplements across the board came up way below what the labels
claimed. Anotesten is pretty new so I don't think that it made it
in the book but if most of the products tested bad, it would lead me to
believe that this is not the anomaly of the product line. If you
are interested in this book call either (888) 551-TEST or visit their webpage
at http://www.labtestreview.com I think that MuscleTech
was even trying to sue the writers of the book because they knew that they
would lose their ass's when it came out. Check it out though. And,
by the way, I have no vested interest in how the book sales. It is
just good reading though and will probably save you some money in the future
from keeping you from buying bad supplements.
My recommendation is the following: Don't waste your money on
either of these supplements. I did and wish that I had not (at least
with the Andro-6). At least I was able to get mine for about $50
which is much lower than the asking price on the EAS site. This is
still $50 pissed away in my opinion. You would be better off just
buying an Androstenedione supplement and if you can find it, a separate
Indole-3 Carbinol supplement. I have not seen the Indole-3 Carbinol
sold separately yet, but I bet that TwinLab will come out with their version
in a month or so. You should be able to get both of these for about
half the price of a bottle of Andro-6. People need to start
realizing that both EAS and MuscleTech are very good at one thing:
mass marketing. They are not good at making and new products though.
They are simply trying to better package and sell supplements that have
already been discovered. Putting a cool label on a bottle and hyping
it for several months with false testimonials and lies do not make a good
product. Combining and selling questionable products for a
premium is not the answer either. Good products make good products.
They will sell themselves if they are getting the job done.
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